08/2006. Registrar will live with the change. The combined Transcript will show all LAST Comment records at the end. This thread illustrates the problem and the fix.
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What does not work about it?
It appears to me working as intended.
Lamar A. Dykes
Software Specialist
lamar.dykes@esp-tulsa.com
From:
Floy L. Parkhill [mailto:flparkhill@stgregorys.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 4:45 PM
To: Lamar Dykes
Subject: RE: COMMENT
records for Master's transcripts
Ok, the Undergrad transcript works fine, and the Alternate (Grad) transcript works fine, using the .altrn=U and .altrn=A flags on the COMMENT records.
The COMBINED Transcript does not work fine. Studentid 314742660
We prefer the combined transcript to either of the others, when we’re creating the transcript inhouse (not CampusConnect) because we know we’re seeing everything.
Are we putting the COMMENT records in correctly?
Flp
The .altrn=U COMMENT record:
³Comment Identifier: 314-74-2660 LAST1 ³
³ StudentidYYTSn Budka Keith D ³
³ Transcript type (U/G): U ³
³ Comment Course ID Title Grade Crd Pts F Equiv ID ³
³ Code XXXXnnnn TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT GGG 000.00 00.00 XXXXnnnn ³
³CONFERRED DEGREE CONFERRED 5/13/06 ³
³BASCIBUS BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Business) ³
³AOCPER AOC: Personalized
The .altrn=A COMMEND record:
³Comment Identifier: 314-74-2660 LAST2 ³
³ StudentidYYTSn Budka Keith D ³
³ Transcript type (U/G): A ³
³ Comment Course ID Title Grade Crd Pts F Equiv ID ³
³ Code XXXXnnnn TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT GGG 000.00 00.00 XXXXnnnn ³
³CONFERRED conferred
Here’s the Undergrad:
| Current Term 19.00 19.00 71.00 19.00 3.74 | Cumulative 128.00 128.00 476.00 128.00 3.72 |
| Cumulative 95.00 95.00 363.00 95.00 3.82 | DEGREE CONFERRED 5/13/06 |
| | BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Business) |
| St. Gregory's Summer I 2005 | AOC: Personalized |
| BU3903A ST:Prsnl Fnancl Plan C 3.00 6.00 | ** END OF TRANSCRIPT **
The Alternate:
| St. Gregory's May 2006 | |
| BU5002T Graduate Research B @ 2.00 6.00 | |
| Graduate Attempt Earned Points Divisor GPA | |
| Current Term 2.00 2.00 6.00 2.00 3.00 | |
| Cumulative 2.00 2.00 6.00 2.00 3.00 | |
| conferred | |
| ** END OF TRANSCRIPT ** | |
|
And the Combined:
| Curr Undergrad 19.00 19.00 71.00 19.00 3.74 | Cum Undergrad 128.00 128.00 476.00 128.00 3.72 |
| Cum Undergrad 95.00 95.00 363.00 95.00 3.82 | |
| | St. Gregory's May 2006 |
| St. Gregory's Summer I 2005 | BU5002T Graduate Research B @ 2.00 6.00 |
| BU3903A ST:Prsnl Fnancl Plan C 3.00 6.00 | Attempt Earned Points Divisor GPA |
| BU3903A ST:Cstmr Rltnshp Mgt W 0.00 | Cum Undergrad 128.00 128.00 476.00 128.00 3.72 |
| MA3032A App Statistics:BU C 2.00 4.00 | Curr Graduate: 2.00 2.00 6.00 2.00 3.00 |
| Attempt Earned Points Divisor GPA | Cum Graduate: 2.00 2.00 6.00 2.00 3.00 |
| Curr Undergrad 5.00 5.00 10.00 5.00 2.00 | DEGREE CONFERRED 5/13/06 |
| Cum Undergrad 100.00 100.00 373.00 100.00 3.73 | BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Business) |
| | AOC: Personalized |
| St. Gregory's Fall 2005 | conferred |
| BU3223A Organiza Behavior A 3.00 12.00 | ** END OF TRANSCRIPT **
From:
Lamar Dykes [mailto:Lamar.Dykes@esp-tulsa.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 3:48 PM
To: Floy L. Parkhill
Subject: RE: COMMENT
records for Master's transcripts
Fixed. (it was a problem with the new translation file and how the program was opening files)
Lamar A. Dykes
From:
Floy L. Parkhill [mailto:flparkhill@stgregorys.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 3:18 PM
To: Lamar Dykes
Subject: RE: COMMENT
records for Master's transcripts
Added the field to COMMENT. Put the field on the COMENT screen. Opened 314742660LAST1 and tried to enter “U” in .altrn. Got this error msg:
Comment Entry Program
Comments 1
ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄCOMMENT ENTRYÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
³Comment Identifier: 314-74-2660 LAST1 ³
³ StudentidYYTSn Budka Keith D ³
³ Transcript type (U/G) U ³
?Illogical record accessing at line 2300 in FIO___CHK_CHNL V6.8-01 F Equiv ID ³
Data file USERS1:[REG.FILES]DROPADD.DTA; on channel 4500.00 00.00 XXXXnnnn ³
Abort this program <YES>? ³
%BAS-F-ILLRECACC, Illogical record accessing ³
-BAS-I-FROLINOEG, from line 19000 in error handler at 2300 in module FIO___CHK_C
HNL ³
-BAS-I-FROLINFUN, from line 1200 in external function FIO_SET_REFKEY ³
-BAS-I-FROLINFUN, from line 2100 in external function FIO_GET_TR ³
-BAS-I-FROGSBLIN, from line 11000 in GOSUB in module ASW_UPDATE_REC ³
-BAS-I-FROLINFUN, from line 2600 in external function ASW_UPDATE_REC ³
-BAS-I-FROLINMOD, from line 2000 in module COMENT ³
³ ³
³ ³
³ ³
ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ
From:
Lamar Dykes [mailto:Lamar.Dykes@esp-tulsa.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 1:34 PM
To: Floy L. Parkhill
Subject: RE: COMMENT
records for Master's transcripts
Floy,
The name our program uses is .ALTRN in the COMMENT file. Add that field will cause it to start working.
Lamar A. Dykes
From:
Floy L. Parkhill [mailto:flparkhill@stgregorys.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 12:40 PM
To: Lamar Dykes
Subject: RE: COMMENT
records for Master's transcripts
The field .type is not in COMMENT. Shall I add it? Will COMENT program recognize it?
DESCRIBE V6.8-02 - Data File Description Program 12:38 PM
Copyright (c) 2000, Campus America, Inc.
Data File Name <COMMENT>?
Type "HELP" for assistance
DESCRIBE Option? list
File(s) <Current>?
Fields <ALL>? *type*
Listing format <BRIEF>?
Output to <TT:>?
Lines per page <23>?
Heading?
Number of copies <1>?
Press RETURN on bell to continue listing
10-Aug-06 12:38 PM Page 1
USERS1:[REG.FILES]COMMENT
Fld Location Len Explanation Field Name Flags DP
--- -------- --- ----------- ---------- ----- --
%No fields matching selection
From:
Lamar Dykes [mailto:Lamar.Dykes@esp-tulsa.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 12:03 PM
To: Floy L. Parkhill
Subject: RE: COMMENT
records for Master's transcripts
Yes last2 comes after last1
And the U and A should work.
Lamar A. Dykes
From:
Floy L. Parkhill [mailto:flparkhill@stgregorys.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 9:57 AM
To: Lamar Dykes
Subject: COMMENT records
for Master's transcripts
The REG manual refers to the sequencing of the LAST comment(s). Does LAST2 immed follow LAST1, without any intervening term/course/comment? We need a way to display “bach degree awarded” (which we’ve been coding with LAST) followed by their graduate work. Then, when they are awarded Master’s degree, we need to display another “last” comment to show “masters degree awarded.” (this is if we use Combined Transcript)
• The third key format is used to place comments or transfer courses at
the end of the student’s transcript (even though additional details,
comments, or transfer information may be added to the student’s
records later). The final character in the key is a number (1 through 9)
which determines the sequence of the last items. Each student may
have up to nine comment records (36 comment lines) of this type.
And, there’s this in the manual, too. Can we utilize .type in the Coment program? Can we flag the LAST comments for Undergrad with “U” and the LAST comments for graduate with “A?” The .type field doesn’t appear on the screen we see when using the Coment program. The thread with Joanne on this issue follows; perhaps it will enlighten. flp
Transcript Type (U/A/ )
This field defines the type of transript to be printed. For undergraduate
transcript only, enter U. For alternate transcript, enter A. To print
undergraduate and alternate transcripts, enter a space.
From:
Joanne M. Cody
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 8:58 AM
To: Floy L. Parkhill
Subject: RE: Transcripts
for Master students
Using LAST means it will always be the last thing on the transcript. When you put the “T” it does follow the semester – but if you have 2 things to put after the semester – it can’t be done.
From:
Floy L. Parkhill
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 8:54 AM
To: Joanne M. Cody
Subject: RE: Transcripts
for Master students
Have you experimented with using either of these?
1. LAST2 to describe what it should say following the Graduate credits?
2. 5002T to describe what it should say following the 5002 term?
Either of these would seem to follow the logic in the Reference manual. Try them on Budka and let me know if they work.
The COMENT program is described in the manual attached. flp
From:
Joanne M. Cody
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 8:47 AM
To: Floy L. Parkhill
Subject: RE: Transcripts
for Master students
Nothing that I found – and since Commentcode is (was) new – I don’t think it’s in the manuel.
From:
Floy L. Parkhill
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 8:46 AM
To: Joanne M. Cody
Subject: RE: Transcripts
for Master students
Can we say that we have looked in the manual and see no instructions for this?
From:
Joanne M. Cody
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 8:43 AM
To: Floy L. Parkhill
Subject: RE: Transcripts
for Master students
In relation to where the posting of degree is on the transcript… and …since you’re working with the ESP on the Commentcode file…….can you find out if there is a way to add a line or a different way to add before or after a semester or add 2 things before or after a semester.
Example: If a student receives credit for training – I put 062SB (meaning before the fall semester) – and then if they receive DSST credit – I put 062ST (meaning after the fall semester). How do I add they received their degree? Usually I put LAST1 – but you can see where it puts it – and then it always remains the last item.
Budka I can change – but there is another that fits the problem above.
Thanks,
Joanne
From:
Floy L. Parkhill
Sent: Thursday, August 10,
2006 8:27 AM
To: Joanne M. Cody
Cc: Happiness T. Mapira
Subject: RE: Transcripts
for Master students
I modified the sis_config.com to allow the choice of undergrad or graduate transcript. The graduate transcript for Budka looks like this. You may want to adjust COMMENT so that it lists the Bachelor degree before the beginning of the Master’s work. Flp
Unofficial Transcript
Transcript type: Graduate
St. Gregory's May 2006
BU5002T Graduate Research B @ 2.00 6.00
Graduate Attempt Earned Points Divisor GPA
Current Term 2.00 2.00 6.00 2.00 3.00
Cumulative 2.00 2.00 6.00 2.00 3.00
DEGREE CONFERRED 5/13/06
BACHELOR OF SCIENCE (Business)
AOC: Personalized
** END OF TRANSCRIPT **
From:
Joanne M. Cody
Sent: Wednesday, August
09, 2006 9:16 PM
To: Floy L. Parkhill
Subject: Transcripts for
Master students
Courses taken in the Master's program are not showing on students transcript in CC.
Thanks,
Joanne